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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: 2 questions
Date: 9 Jan 1995 13:55:38 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <3eqjo6$p9k@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>,
<br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu> wrote:
>I use ms Kermit to connect via telephone modem to my university Suns.
> The suns uses
>c-kermit (about 2 versions back I think).
>1. Every time I do file transfers I must reset several variables in
>c-kermit; flow control, windows, blocks etc.. Is it possible for me
>to have these commands as a script or macro in my home directory.
>
Yes, all of the above, as explained in the manual, "Using C-Kermit".
The recommended method is to install the standard C-Kermit initialization
file, .kermrc, in your home directory, and then create a .mykermrc
file, also in your home directory, containing the desired customization
commands. For those who don't like the standard .kermrc file (which
sets up such items as your services directory, dialing directory, etc),
just make a .kermrc file.
>How would I tell c-kermit to use that script.?
>
See above. You can also tell C-Kermit to use any file at all as its
initialization file, using the -y command-line option:
kermit -y filename
And at any time C-Kermit is showing its prompt, you can tell it to execute
commands from a file:
C-Kermit> take filename
And you can define macros and execute them like so:
C-Kermit> define fast set rec packet-length 2000, set window 4
C-Kermit> fast
And you can put the macro definitions in your initialization file or
any other file that you can "take".
All of this is explained in the manual.
>2. It has been suggested in the past that the telnet capabilites of
>kermit are superior to the normal telnet. Is it possible to use those
>telnet capabilties with my modem connection. I mean can I put c-kermit
>into Server mode and use its telnet. Is there any possible benifit
>to gained by doing this over the normal telnet capabilites that are on
>the Unix system?
>
You mean, after dialing up to your Unix system, you want to know why you
might want to use C-Kermit instead of telnet to connect to another system
on the Internet? The advantages include:
. Kermit is more user-friendly ("help", "?", command and filename
completion, etc).
. The telnet implementation works in some cases where regular
telnet does not.
. Kermit has scripting (automation) capability; telnet does not.
. Kermit has (in the UNIX version, a limited form of) key mapping;
telnet doesn't.
. Kermit can convert among many different character sets, telnet can't.
. Kermit has session logging, telnet doesn't.
. Kermit can make 8-bit telnet connections; some telnet clients can't.
. Kermit can transfer files over a telnet connection, telnet can't.
The last point is important in the increasing number of cases where the
telnetted-to host or service does not provide ftp; e.g. Internet BBSs,
or Internet versions of commercial dialup services.
- Frank